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Building a Computer

Post by Nyxx on Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:25 pm

Hey guys, I'm building a computer for the first time, and I'm about to start buying the parts within the next few days.
I'm not the most tech-savvy person out there, but I've done plenty of research about how each component affects performance.
My goal is to build a gaming computer that can, foremost, run APB at a constant 120 fps, and secondly, be able to handle next generation-console-type games at fairly high settings (i.e. Watchdogs, GTA4?, Arma 3, Battlefield 4). With this in mind, I also want to keep the cost as low as possible. Currently, it's sitting at around $1500 USD, which is a little bit over my initial budget of around $1400, but anyone can recommend parts that performs equivalently or better at a lower price, I'd really appreciate it.

Enough of that, here's the parts:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($324.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($120.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:  Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter:  Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($14.99 @ NCIX US)
Case:  Enermax ECA3280A-BR ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:  Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($39.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive:  Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($88.88 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor:  Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($250.52 @ Amazon)
Total: $1458.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-15 22:14 EDT-0400)

Again, suggest anything could keep the cost down, but keep the performance at the same level.Razz

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Everything seems to be in order, although I would eschew the Windows 8 myself in favor of Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. (I just haven't warmed up to W8 yet).
The processor, while very nice and top of the line, might be a bit overkill. You could save $100-ish by going with an i5. Personally I'm not a fan of ASRock motherboards, it may just be me being a fan-boy, but I stick to Asus and Gigabyte. Regardless of which brand you go with, consider the on-board features of the motherboard, and decide if they're truly necessary, sometimes the spec sheet is filled with extra crap you don't need. I've never spent more than $80 on a motherboard. All it needs is what will be on any motherboard ie: Ethernet, sound, pci express slot, and some usb ports. Having on-board video is useless since you are buying a dedicated card. (Note* this is essentially unavoidable with todays processors, as they pretty much all include on-board video right on the chip) However, this brings me back to the i5 vs i7 conflict. The i7 will have better on-board graphics than the i5, but again, useless in a gaming machine. Back to the point. everything you chose is fine, it will make a great machine, I just think you can achieve the same end and save a few bucks in the process.

One final note, you could save money by toning down the videocard choice a bit. As with the i7 choice, great product, top of the line (for now). You could save a lot of money looking for a card in the GTX 660 Ti up to GTX 690 range, without any noticeable loss of quality. Just make sure to stay in the GTX line and 500 series or above, stay away from the GT line of cards...

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Nyxx on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:22 am

Wow, didn't even know someone actually replied to this thread XD

Thanks for the input, but unfortunately, it's a tad too late.

Here's the final list that I went with
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.25 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3280A-BR ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.48 @ Outlet PC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.48 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($87.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($250.52 @ Amazon)
Total: $1514.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-23 01:35 EDT-0400)
(Note, the total price I paid was way cheaper because of daily sales and such.)

So I've built it. Sorta.
Apparently, this is what an i7 4770k, a 1tb hdd, and a wifi adapter is to Newegg.


Now I have to jump through hoops with their RMA process and continue to wait for 1-2 more weeks Sad

This is my rig so far.


Here's what it would look like IF NEWEGG DIDN'T MESS UP MY ORDER.


sorry you have to look at my feet.

AND HERE'S WHERE I COULD BE PLAYING APB RIGHT NOW NO THANKS TO NEWEGG.


/rant

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Indigum on Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:33 am

Wow. I've never had Newegg screw anything up.  That's crazy!

They're a good company, and I feel like if you get on the phone with them, they would be horribly embarrassed and expedite the process.  See if they'll just get your stuff in the mail, how worried can they be about the cables?

Are you sure they didn't package the stuff separately?  I think I had a panic attack once in similar circumstances, only to receive box 2 of 2 the next day.

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Nyxx on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:09 pm

I did get on the phone with them last night, yelled at them, but they said stuff like this has to go through the RMA process.
I think they're more worried about people claiming that they hadn't received their product so that they can get another one; that's why it's such a long process, but still. I paid 2 day shipping on my stuff. Doesn't justify for having to wait another 1-2 weeks til I finally get it.
And no, I did not order those cables at all. The invoice in the package said my actual order.

Me yesterday prior to opening the package: bounce cheers 
Me yesterday after opening the box: Mad Evil or Very Mad 
Me today: Crying or Very sad Sad pale No

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Nyxx on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:18 pm

IT'S TAUNTING ME! D:

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Indigum on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:38 pm

lol! 

But no. Sucks.

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Guest on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:39 pm

If you have a microcenter near you, i would just buy it there and just get a refund from newegg. I buy tons of stuff online, but sometimes i like being able to walk out of the store with it

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Post by Nyxx on Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:08 pm

phase wrote:If you have a microcenter near you, i would just buy it there and just get a refund from newegg. I buy tons of stuff online, but sometimes i like being able to walk out of the store with it
There isn't one in my state even, and I can't simply just get a refund because I did not and could not return the products I originally ordered. In either case, I'll still have to wait.

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:40 pm

Oh ok, i saw some items on your list from there and assumed you had one nearby. Theres only 16 in the U.S., so i know theyre rare to find. Im lucky enough that one is about 20 mins from my house, yet 5 mins from where I work

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Nyxx on Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:38 pm

So I chatted with customer service today seeing if they could speed up the process, and this is what I got.
(Click on the white box)

Spoiler:

Ryan: Hi, my name is Ryan. How may I help you?
Me: Hi Ryan, I have a question about my return. Does the product essentially have to be received before my replacement order is shipped?

Ryan: Thank you for providing me with that information, John. I will be more than happy to assist you. May I please place you on hold for a moment while I look into this?
Me: Yes.
Ryan: Thank you for holding. Upon checking, your account is not eligible for advanced RMA, so the product has to be received before the replacement order is shipped.
Me: Judging from the amount of time ground shipping will take to deliver the return from SC to CA, the processing time, and the return shipping time, it seems like I will not be getting my replacement order for 2 weeks. This is unacceptable, the fault was made at your end, and I have to wait half a month to get my order? Especially when I initially chose the 2-day shipping method.
Ryan: We sincerely apologize for this inconvenience. I'm afraid so. I appreciate your patience in advance.
Ryan: The RMA processing time is 2-5 business days from when the RMA is received by our RMA department. Once the RMA is processed, we will generate the replacement order and ship it out within approximately 1-2 business days.
Me: There's nothing I can do to expedite the process?
Ryan: I could upgrade the return shipvia to Newegg Nextday, is that acceptable?
Me: I would greatly appreciate it, yes.
Me: But still, the amount of time I have to wait is still very long.
Me: Are you talking about changing the shipping from me to Newegg? or the shipping for my actual products?
Ryan: I would understand but this is most we can do. I apologize for this. Upon checking, your RMA# 56493240 was issued due to sent wrong item. In this case I will need to send a request to unhold this RMA and once replied, I will edit your RMA to Nextday.
Ryan: The shipping that we send to you.
Me: That is still around a 2-week wait, even with the Nextday shipping.
Me: Can I not get Advanced RMA at this point?
Ryan: I would like to help you but your account is not eligible for advanced RMA. I appreciate your understanding.
Me: This is only my 3rd order from Newegg, and I've only started to shop at your website for less than a month. So far, my experience with it has not been very good. I appreciate your help, and I know you must follow policies, but this issue is completely unacceptable.
Ryan: I appreciate your understanding and I sincerely apologize for not being able to assist you this time.
Ryan: Would you still want me to upgrade the return shipvia to Nextday?
Me: Yes.
Me: And thank you for your help.


[EDIT]
I was reading some forums about other people complaining how slow the returns process is, and I found out that I could do an advanced RMA by simply just calling customer service. They will ship my actual items next week Very Happy

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Re: Building a Computer

Post by Nyxx on Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:15 pm

It' finally done!

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Post by Indigum on Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:07 pm

It looks godly.  Or would, rather, if one could see it.

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